22 November 2013

ASOIAF - Why I Hate Daenerys Targaryen

ASOIAF - Daenerys Targaryen Rant

To all you feminists, little girls or other kind of Daenerys Targaryen worshipers that stumbled upon this post by some kind of horrible mistake.
I will explain why George RR Martin's Daenerys Targaryen is one of my most hated Game Of Thrones characters on HBO's TV Series particularly and in a Song of Ice and Fire series in general (be aware spoilers inside). Brace yourselves, this is not going to be pretty.

Spoilers inside

Daenerys with white stalion poster from Game of thrones season 1
Game of Thrones Season 1 Daenerys

Now when HBO's season 3 of Game of Thrones is behind us I will address an issue that reimbursed ever since the last scene from season 3 aired, regardless the needless scene and the savior persona that was created for Daenerys the Breaker of Chains. I was wondering about my unexplained hate towards the Daenerys Targaryen character for a very long time. My obvious dislike started surfacing during book 3 of Song of Ice and Fire series "A Storm of Swords". Initially I thought that I hate this character for no explained reason. It's like when you meet a person and you get this uncomfortable vibe from him and the only thing you want to do is avoid him at any cost, well I had the same feeling with Daenerys Targaryen's POV reading chapters.
bloody Daenerys eating raw horse hart
Bloody Daenerys

At the beginning I thought I hated her for the reason I described above but with time my dislike towards Khaleesi grew and transformed to something of unbearable proportions. From the first moment I encountered Daenerys in the first book of ASOIAF "A Game Of Thrones" I was very ambivalent towards her. I didn't care that she was sold to Drogo and it was actually entertaining to see how her detached from reality abusing older brother Viserys treated her, using her as a tool in his chess game. Apart from his boring sister he was actually fun in his own sick way. Unfortunately the Beggar King Viserys Targaryen was taken from us and we were left with the boring Targaryen.
The only time I really enjoyed reading a Daenerys chapter in the books was the house of the undying prophesies in "A Clash of Kings", the rest of her reading chapters were boring at best (A Game of Thrones, A Clash of Kings, A Storm of Swords) and unbearable at worst (A Dance with Dragons).

One of the things that repulse me in the Mother of dragons is the self entitlement for ... Everything. Who died and made you Queen? The fact that you got sold like sheep to a warlord / rapist / butcher / slaver as his personnel sex toy doesn't give you any special privileges. Your old man was a nut that liked to burn and torture people alive; he got exactly what he deserved. With Aerys Targaryen death your claim to Westeros vanished.
Now if we talk about the imaginary Targaryen Family claim to Westeros. I understand that Valeria was destroyed and the Targaryens needed to find somewhere to hang but the Targaryens didn’t had the right to conquer an entire continent from its inhabitants.

Daenerys Targaryen photoshop
Daenerys Day dreaming
We established that her padre Aerys Targaryen was crazy, her brother wasn't nuts but he was not a great thinker either like everybody described him to be. Let’s come from a simple assumption that Rhaegar didn't rape Liana Stark but she went with him willingly. I'm sure he knew that kidnapping a high born Stark girl that was betrothed to another wouldn't slide well. Rhaegar Targaryen didn't expect this trick of his to escalate to a full mode rebellion and war.
That only proves that Rhaegar wasn't that smart or special like Daenerys imagines him to be. Daenerys even acknowledges at some point that if Rhaegar haven't kidnapped Liana the Targaryens would be still sitting on the iron throne.

Another thing regarding Daenerys, why doesn’t she ever train her dragons? They supposed to follow her commands just like that? All she does is lay around all day and dream about the past. She is still a small annoying and stupid child that has a massive rage attack issues. You could see it every time that something doesn't go her way or when someone tries telling her she is wrong. 

One of her biggest flaws is that she has this ideal image of her nut father Aerys and older delusional brother Rhaegar, which is so mislead from its core. Her persona is build around those ideal men that in fact are so far from the truth. You would have thought that from her experience with Viserys she would get through her thick skull that not all members of the Targaryen family are perfect. The fact that she doesn’t want to believe that or even hear anything negative about her "perfect" family proves how immature she is. Daenerys is afraid to change her ideal perspective towards the dead Targaryen family members and this flaw pisses me of more than the rest, she chooses to be ignorant regarding the truth.

Does George RR Martin Protect Daenerys?

With Daenerys it always feels like everything constantly goes her way. No matter what she does or to be exact what horrible mistakes she makes, she always comes on top. The problem is that she stays on top not because she does something special to recover from her mistakes but because everything turns around for her by itself. Daenerys does so many foolish moves that wouldn’t fly in Westeros. In a sense it feels like she deals with armatures in the free cities.
Compare Daenerys Targaryen to other characters in A Song of Ice and Fire Series like:

  1. Rob Stark - loses his head for one honorable mistake.
  2. Jon Snow - got a similar fate like his half brother for going on his way without considering the opinions of others. The fact remains that his black brothers were not ready for the massive changes he planned to make.
  3. Tyrion Lannister - The Dwarf got his nose cut off because he didn’t expect the assassination attempt.
  4. Jaime Lannister - Got his hand chopped off for his arrogance.
  5. Theon Greyjoy - OMG I can't even think about his fate, it's too painful to describe it, although he was never one of my favorites.
Daenerys is immune to all that, not even a scratch on her body from all the dumb shit she does, and that’s really frustrating. Daenerys Targaryen is protected by the author. It seems like Martin is jumping through hoops just to make Daenerys likable but for some readers like me and many others that doesn't work. It only generates more hate towards the Mother of Dragons.

Because RR Martin’s blind protection of his Little Miss goody two shoes, sometimes I even categorize Daenerys with Joffrey Baratheon / Lannister and Ramsay Bolton, those last two are some sick dudes. And still I categorize Daenerys in their sick company. There is one difference between Daenerys and Joffrey, Ramsay. Joffrey and Ramsay are vicious, sick and disturbing characters that no one in his right mind can somehow relate. The audience is petrified from them and has an initial negative opinion about the two. With Daenerys it is completely different approach but in some circles it generates the similar dislike. She is portrayed as a positive character but if you look deep inside and listen to how she talks about Westeros’s high lords you can see that she can be as vicious as Joffrey (not Ramsay Bolton he is on pedestal of his own). Joffrey tortured and killed his victims because he enjoyed it, Daenerys can do the same when her excuse is vengeance.

Daenerys Targaryen major struggles in the free cities:

  1. Daenerys Targaryen had a mental breakdown after losing her unborn baby Rhaego, (The baby who would destroy the world) and killing her rapist sun and stars husband. Khaleesi of the Great Grass Sea decides to enter the fire to do god knows what, in my opinion it was to commit suicide. When out of nowhere magically she survives and her dragon eggs are hatched - Magic
  2. Travel in the desert with her khalasar of misfits, until deteriorating to dehydration. When all hope is lost suddenly she finds a city in the middle of nowhere where a complete stranger vouches for her and her gang of barbarians Dothraki to enter (how convenient) - Luck
  3. Enters willingly into a trap at the House of the Undying (with no plan or backup) just to be rescued by her dragons, the Dragons start spiting fire for the first time in the most appropriate time - Magic + Luck
  4. Tricks the slave masters in Astapor to sell her all the Unsullied and butchers the slavers in the end - People stupidity (that trick would not fly in Westeros).
  5. She meets an army of Sellswords who supposed to protect the city of Yunkai. Than from nowhere Daario Naharis betrays his colleagues to join Daenerys ranks, and give her even more power (WTF?!?!? where did that come from? and why? Is Daenerys that hot that Daario Naharis started thinking with his other head?) - Luck + Love
  6. Conquers Meereen, tries to rule the city but fails in every turn. Sons of the harpy use guerrilla style warfare against the mother of dragons and her free slaves. In a desperate attempt for peace with Sons of the Harpy she abandons her ideal and allows the slave trade of Slaver's Bay to continue, marries Hizdahr zo Loraq who tries to poison her but she miraculously survives - Luck
The Daenerys Targaryen character is so frustrating that at some point in "A Dance with Dragons" it was impossible to read her chapters. Every time I saw the header with a Daenerys at the top I would think twice whether to start reading the chapter or leave it for tomorrow, because I knew that I’m in for the boredom of my life.

I will give a great example for my frustration with Daenerys:

The moment Quentyn Martell of Dorne arrived, to claim Daenerys's hand in marriage. I thought thank god these free cities nightmare is about to end but NO, Daenerys decides to stay in freaking Meereen to protect her “people”.Give me a break this is ridicules. 

You dream day and night about conquering back your birth rite and claim the Iron Throne to yourself because you think that it is yours. And now when Quentyn is here giving you a legitimate opportunity to return home with Dorne behind you (the only big house that has a fresh, rested army which didn’t participate in the never ending war in Westeros), you decline to continue drowning in the Meereen quicksand. Daenerys why would you do that?

If we are at the Meereen quicksand, what was she supposed to do with her new husband Hizdahr zo Loraq when she would actually decide to conquer Westeros? (That is of course prior the poisoning attempt) I don’t think that the Westerosi would have really accepted him as their king (Daenerys herself has some kind of a small base to her claim but this Hizdahr zo Loraq has non and he would have never been accepted in Westeros. So why in seven hells did she marry that clown). If you ask Daenerys, than she would probably be like "I will burn the opposition with fire and blood" ... and bunch of garbage of that sort.

What’s up with Daenerys Targaryen's never ending list of names and titles?

  • Daenerys Targaryen the First of Her Name (she is not the first Daenerys)
  • Mother of Dragons
  • Daenerys Stormborn
  • Queen of the Andals
  • Queen of the Rhoynar
  • Queen of the First Men
  • Lord of the Seven Kingdoms
  • Protector of the Realm
  • Khaleesi of the Great Grass Sea
  • The Unburnt
  • Breaker of Chains
  • Queen of Meereen
  • Dany
There are so many names and titles that it confused me and I had to sit down and remember all of them. What normal person can remember all of them except maybe Daenerys.
What if Daenerys Targaryen does conquer Westeros? What then?

Sometimes when I think about the possibility of her coming to Westeros and really conquering the continent, I don’t think that anyone will be left for her to rule. This crazy Targaryen chick is so out of her mind with her never dying revenge. When she will finish with Westeros there won’t be anything left. Let’s be honest most of the big houses of Westeros betrayed her nut of a father Aerys Targaryen. The only ones that didn’t were house Martell but she ditched Quentyn so they won’t be happy with that. Daenerys does not have any friends in Westeros now.

a fictional coat of arms
a fictional coat of arms (Photo credit: Wikipedia)
Even if she doesn’t destroy the entire Westeros continent where is she planning to put her entire army of Unsullied, Sellswords, slaves and Dothraki Barbarians in the end?
I’m personally really intrigued about the Unsullied because the Sellswords will leave for their next higher bidder the slaves and the Dothraki will eventually adapt (that will take a long time indeed). What do you do with 8000 baby killers with no balls? They can’t have children, start a family's nor start working in the fields like normal people. What is Daenerys supposed to do with them in the end? I really hope that Martin will kill that crazy Targaryen or at least make her suffer ... a lot.

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Couldn't agree more with this! I just started getting into Game of Thrones, and like how there are several different storylines going on at once. However, once I see Daenery's storyline or even see her face, I don't watch anymore or I just go surfing the web until her story is over and it shifts to either the Lannister's/Snow's/Starks story. I hate when one character ruins the whole book/show to the point where you can't even watch it anymore, and that's what Daenery's does to this! And seriously, Martin is COMPLETELY GOING OUT OF HIS WAY TO TRY TO MAKE US LIKE HER, and it pisses me off even more, and makes me hate her even more. Ugh! Can't stand it!

Thats why reading A Dance With Dragons was so hard for me. Half of the freaking book was Daenerys one woman's show and it bored the crap out of me. With the TV Series you can skip parts show and surf the net while Daenerys is on doing her thing like you said but in the book you cant skip chapters because you might miss something important. unfortunately there is almost nothing important going on with Daenerys. it is so frustrating that Martin tries so hard to make her likable that it generates this hate towards her (at least for me)

Haha, oh man, that's true, I don't know how you do it! A whole BOOK about her?! UGH, please someone just slit my eyes! I thought I might start reading the books, but nope not now! It feels great knowing that at least SOMEONE feels the same!
Did I mention how I hate how Daenery's face gets when she tries to act all tough and hard thinking she's the shizzle?! UGH! Sorry, but thank you so much for listening to my rants. I have officially bookmarked your site! :)

With all the hate i feel towards Daenerys the books are awesome. you should try them at least the first 3. the other two are not as eventful and the 5th is completely ruined by Daenerys but still the books are a must.
Thanks for the bookmark:)

No prob, I really do love your post on this. I come back only to read it again and again, haha (I know, I have issues >.<) ~ I'm still thinking about the books....meh...it just scares me because I wont be able to skip over the Daenerys parts ;P

Thanks, Glad you like it so much.

With all the Daenerys bad stuff the books are still worth checking out, besides Daenerys started getting on my nerves in book 4. Until then she was somehow tolerable and forgettable.

No one will take this seriously if you are spelling the names of major characters wrong.

I dislike Daenerys but I can't take this article seriously because of all the spelling errors. "Miracally" should be "miraculously."

Let me know what names you saw that are wrong, it will be easier for me to fix it.

Your theories are to compplicated.
She is the least likely character to die beacuse:
The series is called "A song of Ice and Fire" and Dany or more specifically her dragons are the source of fire in the world.
Further more "Valar morguhlis" (all men must die) indicate that if there are to be any Survivors, they will be women. Its all there, in plain sight. I still hope Tyron makes it, he is only a half-man after all :-)

I don’t think they are too complicated, but if you think so I can explain them a bit more, if you want.

You are correct that the series is called "A song of Ice and Fire" and Daenerys does represent the fire with her Dragons but where is the Ice? She has nothing to do with Ice that is why she is not the savior that was promised. Jon Snow fits that frame a lot more.
I think you took "Valar morguhlis" a bit too far, the phrase is used to make it clear that nobody is immune and everybody is fare game. Everybody can die that is it. The fact that the phrase is used a lot in the series doesn’t mean that everybody HAS to die; Martin mentions it to make clear that everyone CAN die.

Tyrion can be 1/3 of the 3 heads of the dragon alongside Daenerys and Jon Snow because all three might be Targaryens, in that case there is a high chance that he will make it at least for the final book.

I think the White Walkers represents the Ice.

Maybe det 3 heads of the dragons means something different

Targaryen's , Dragons, Magic

Targaryen's, Dragon, Rhollor (God of fire)

Dany, Dany's nephew, Master Aemon? (did he really die).
Or someone yet unknown.

Valar morguhlis - I still think it is the a red thread in the Song.

The song final verse is yet to come :-)

White Walkers maybe represent coldness and ice and that's it. its hard to connect them to the main story.

I dissagree with your 3 heads of the Dragon. Targaryen's , Dragons, Magic and Targaryen's, Dragon, Rhollor is too simple and has no depth to it. when Martin writes something it blows you away and those 2 do nothing for the reader.
Dany, Dany's nephew, Master Aemon can work but Aemon got nothing to do with it so its not likely.

I guess we will have to wait and see what will happen next :)

You obviously didn't understood the book at all.

Well I thought i understood it. The problem that i enjoyed all of the previous books and the 5th one (A Dance with Dragons) was a pain. Maybe i did miss something but i started disliking Daenerys right after book 2 (A Clash of Kings) so having half a book telling her boring story was not my cup of tea. I tolerated her in the previous books because her chapters appeared in smaller doses, in A Dance with Dragons there was just too much of her.

Thank God there is someone who agrees with me on the piont of this girl.
She is the most annoying prick in the whole story and I agree with you wholesomely.
I just HATE the fact that the author favours her soo much.She is vain, arrogant,stubborn, proud with absolutely no reason and has no claim whatsoever for the throne!
Oh please please please George RR Martin please kill of Daenerys, thats the only think I ask of you - well except maybe to save Jaime

I feel the exact same thing!! I cannot stand ADWD because it is filled to the brim of Daenerys. I literally skipped all of her chapters and probably will only go back to them when Winds of Winter comes ou

Thanks for sharing your opinion, unfortunately we are in a minority. 90% of the HBO viewers think of her as a goddess that came from heaven to save the world. The problem that those exact people ignore most of the flaws you described above. The show doesn't highlight those flaws as the books do but her characters flaws are there and person with half a brain can see that and see Daenerys for what she really is.
Most of the people who read the book are ambivalent towards her and don't share the contempt to her character like we do but as the story progresses more and more people start getting frustrated with the Daenerys character.
I don't think that Martin is going to kill her off. He put too much work and effort in attempt of making her likeable. Martin knows how he is going to end the ASOIAF series and unfortunately Daenerys looks to be the favorite to win the Iron throne.

Good luck with the 2nd round of ADWD, this is going to be a long read :)

Ok, I just wanna marry you... like right now. THANK GOD for your review. I'm finishing A Dance with Dragons and her chapters are a pain in the ass, as you said.

If it turns out that GRRM only wrote 6 or 7 books, I don't know how many they will be, only to put Daenerys in the iron throne, I seriously think he will ruin everything. And other characters FAR MORE INTERESTING will be there for, basically, nothing. The story then will be "Daenerys's journey to the iron throne". Let's pray this won't happen.

As of right now there are supposed to be 7 books. 5 were released so far, A Dance with Dragons being the fifth. The additional two books are The Winds of Winter (the sixth book) and A Dream of Spring (The 7th book). We already know that Martin is working on The Winds of Winter and he even published a few chapters online but we don't really know when he is going to finish the book.
You are right regarding Daenerys, Martin is doing everything in his power to put her on the throne. While the rest of the characters can keep on struggling, it seems like they are a background noise for Martin. When his main goal is Daenerys, unfortunately for us she is so boring and we will have to suffer till the end because Martin refuses to kill her off.

Hi Lintalome Quickshade,
Thanks a lot for your Rant / Comment. I thought about adding something but you covered pretty much everything.
I’m glad to hear that I’m not the only one that feels like that about Daenerys. I think that Martin screwed up this character; he wants so much to make her likeable, to prepare her taking the Throne that he completely ignored the fact that his excessive efforts achieve the complete opposite. Generally I would hope that she will improve in the next two final books but I completely lost fate in Daenerys and hope she will die really soon.

YES!!!! YES A MILLION TIMES YES!!! I've never read anything as enlightened as this... Even though Martin does not protect her as much as the writers of the show do, the TV character is a bit more likeable, but still I really hope she gets eaten by one of the dragons (Fingers crossed for Vyserion) and we can call her Daenarys DragonManure...



The show does bring Daenerys in a more positive light than it was in the books
but from the trailers for the 4th season it seems like the producers made a change in the character this season. All gloves are off and
Daenerys is exposed as vindictive little Tyron she is.
That’s not going to
change the opinion of her followers on the HBO show, first impression is
one can only hope for her exit from the series, although its most unlikely at this point.

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